The Hitler of Legend

May 2023June 2, 2023By Paul Gottfried

Contrary to the standard view of historians, Hitler was not a conservative with pre-World War I aristocratic values, but a radical revolutionary who upended the traditional German power structure . . .

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“Lukacs’s reinterpretation of Hitler as a revolutionary, not a German reactionary, was entirely correct.” an interesting proposition but I think in the end erroneous. I agree he despised the ancien regime and he was no conservative as say Fredreich Von Reck was. I would also agree that the SA bore real affinities to Robespierre and Maoism (though not to Stalinism which had a hidden conservative side–but that is a long conversation)> However he purged the SA and never really broke from Capital did he (excuse the gauchisme). There was a gruesome modernity about the 3rd reich but that is not equivalent to revolution. His ancestors were Robespierre but more likely Napoleon and yes Mao and the Pol Pot. But in the end he was backed by conservative industrialists which to my mind makes him a hild of Capital (again pardon he gauchisme) I hasten to add that Lukacs was a fine historian and I am not so I speak under correction –good article!!

May 1, 2023 Robert Alpert Reply
Yes. Hitler was not a conservative. He was a real man, not a weak-kneed zionist pussy.

May 1, 2023 John White Reply
“Yes. Hitler was not a conservative. He was a real man, not a weak-kneed zionist pussy.”

So how would you rate Menachem Begin?

May 8, 2023 Michael Kaiser Reply
Menachem Begin is a good zionist. Soon all live zionists will join him as good zionists.

May 12, 2023 John White Reply
Mir fällt zu Hitler nichts ein. So, Hitler can be this or that “-ist.” Yup, just like some who “follow Christ” are infidel-slaying Crusaders while others are hide-in-my-closet Quakers. As for anti-semitism “infecting the Austrian capital.” Well, I take Die Fackel Karl Krauss’s position: that it was infected by semitism. “In view of his decided antisemitism, Kraus’s rather favorable attitude toward Lueger is not surprising. Lueger is usually referred to as the antisemitic mayor of Vienna who paved the way for Hitler’s antisemitism and for National Socialism.” Kraus was equally proud of having had original contributions for Die Fackel from Houston Stewart Chamberlain. Kraus wrote many lengthy articles and published some by other authors, trying to prove how the Rothschilds and other Jewish concerns cheated the public. Kraus had complained for years that it was impossible to write satires because everyday reality itself exceeded yesterday’s reality by more than satire could. He believed that the Jewish journalists who were guilty of the maltreatment of words were ultimately responsible for the concentration camps. “Mir fällt zu Hitler nichts ein.” (Nothing occurs to me (to say) about Hitler). [These are quotations from Iggers, 1967.]

May 17, 2023 Nick Reply
Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn also pointed out in THE MENACE OF THE HERD that most of the support the National Socialists had in elections came from Northern Germany and was mostly Protestant. They drew little support from Southern Catholic Germans. The Nazis also ultimately killed about 3/5ths of the Catholic clergy of Europe and millions of non Jewish civilians. Our “Make the Word Safe For Democracy” Wilsonians were stupid enough to unleash totalitarianism in Europe and now their Globalist Troskyite followers want to do the same in the US.

May 17, 2023 Louis Reply
I have several thoughts about Hitler that I think have some importance.

First of all, I think the idea that Hitler was able through charisma and nerve able all on his own to mobilize the masses and roll over all of the German elite classes to take power is not correct.

One thing I remember seeing once is the story of how Hitler had a lunch meeting with one of the Freikorps generals in 1919. This is not something any 30-year-old corporal who wanted to would be able to do. What this tells me is that Hitler was selected early-on by certain elite elements to be a front man and candidate leader in a revolution against what they saw as the weak elements in German society.

Hitler, of course, did eventually gain total personal power, but his personal attributes are not what forced the door open for him. It would be better to say, his manifest potential as a mass leader was what motivated the elite elements which supported him to want to elevate him.

The Nazi regime followed the Prussian model of how turn a country into a geopolitical engine, but, in our modern parlance, put the venture on steroids. Extreme nationalism and the focus on the development of the volk on all class levels may have had behind it the intent of elevating the station of German civilization in the world, but it also had the geopolitical intent of encouraging nationalist zeal in the individual and strengthening the ability of the economy to support military production.

Overall, maybe the effort to understand the rise of Hitler and German national socialism represents a complex problem of sorting out exactly what is the cart and what is the horse. Or call it a problem of what exactly pulls what and what follows.

May 17, 2023 Anonymike Reply
I would agree with Anonymike about Hitler being selected by the elites rather than simply being the most popular among the masses. Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn also explained in his books that the National Socialist platform was copied verbatim from the Czech National Socialist Party platform of the 1890s. This faction could be traced back to the pre-Reformation Hussites. I would also say the elites unleashed this horror with the intent of blocking all the Catholic interests whether it was the Church, the Hapsburgs, or the voters in Southern Germany. Keeping Catholics divided in the US serves the same function. Trump gets a lot of Catholics on one side so the Nazis in our country do whatever they can to keep Catholics on the Democrat side.

May 17, 2023 Louis Reply
A brief consultation of Genealogy of Morals will elucidate. There is slave-morality: that is Christianity, which becomes secularized/atheized in the last two centuries: Bolshevism. Master-morality, which is what the National Socialists (aka “fascists”) offered, is the alternative. Christianity (which one, right?) is fundamentally NOT opposed to Bolshevism. The latter is only its latter-day heresy or prodigal son who never returns. Bolshevism is to Christianity what Christianity was to Judaism. Notice in Weimar: the “Christians” had a choice: Bolsheviks or Nazis. The Papacy was not a choice. Sat sapienti.

May 17, 2023 Nick Reply
(The Jews won’t accept their Messiah; the Christians won’t accept their Marx.)

May 17, 2023 Nick Reply
To Anonymous and Louis: the article I sighted in a previous comment thread (Scott Thompson’s “Return of the Monarchs; Politics For A New Dark Age”) touches on your commentary in a BIG way. I got it off the Executive Intelligence Review website (LaRouche’s old website; hard to get to these days. Save it to your favorites list if you find it). It ties in with a ton of articles that you can turn up by typing into the Search box of the EIR website, ” Synarchy” or “Synarchism/NAZI- Communist” (an intelligence file from 1940 based on findings of Army and Navy intelligence, and of French intelligence, handed to LaRouche for his perusal) or “Synarchy Internationale”. The Synarchist basically use fascists and communists as hammer and anvil to pummel a targeted society into accepting the Synarchist brand of tyranny. The names, organizations, corporations, banking interests involved in this is mind boggling. Scott Thompson’s article covers the fact that Hitler was a project gone awry (this Frankenstein monster did not perform as planned, and a better model is in the works). There is discussion of a “Northern Tier” (Protestant North Europe) and “Southern Tier” (Catholic South Europe) coordinating efforts to get a true PanEuropa this time, another Roman Empire. They’re also approaching another powerful Bloc; the Anglo-American Bloc to coordinate, THIS time for a universal fascism run by an oligarchy of elites, overseen by an Emperor (Otto Hapsburg from the Southern Tier, was to be the designated leader of this, some decades ago. But he has since passed away.). The Dream of Tyranny persists in men and women of great power and wealth. Dr. Quigley wrote about the Anglo-American side of it, in his book “Tragedy and Hope”. In the end, their domain shall be the same as mine; a grave, six feet under. Their pursuit was vain, and at great moral hazard to themselves.

May 17, 2023 Larry Bowen Reply
To Nick:
“No one can at the same time be a sincere Catholic and a true Socialist” (1931)- Pope Pius XI

To Larry:
Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn said in his books that Fascism, Communism, National Socialism are all competitors, but not really enemies. This is why he was supportive of competition and Wilhelm Röpke’s economics. Röpke’s book THE SOCIAL CRISIS OF OUR TIME compared National Socialism and Communism and showed they were both centralized and therefore both Leftist.

May 17, 2023 Louis Reply
To Louis:
I remember when Popes ordered or endorsed executions and massacres of heretics (Lollards, Hussites, Lollards, Waldensians…some were later called “Lutherans” and “Calvinists”); and also authorized slaughter of infidels. Do you currently maintain that all non-Papists (“Protestants”) will be going to Hell? Or do you think all those Popes I just referred to above were, shall we say, FALLIBLE? Forsooth, I will grant you that your Pius XI was less affectionate towards the Muslims (and Chinese Communists) than the current one. If Jesus came back today I believe he would recognize the College of Cardinals in the Vatican as the Resurrection of the Sanhedrin. And then some!

May 17, 2023 Nick Reply
To Nick:

There has been an official invitation for some time for Anglicans/Episcopalians, Lutherans, and Methodists to come back to the Catholic Church. There was also hope to bring all Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Orthodox back to the Catholic Church. More broadly everyone is invited into the Catholic Church. Personally I like the Anglican Use Parishes and hoped that more protestants would come back. I also like the Eastern churches wish all the Orthodox would come back including the Russians. This was the goal of all the recent Popes including Pope Benedict and especially Saint John Paul II. Sadly, too many Catholics are aligned with the very Globalists who want endless wars and they conspire against any reunions. Papal Infallibility is limited to when the Pope speaks ex cathedra. I am no expert, but I think that has only happened twice. The Popes themselves are human and not all of them have been declared Saints. There was a good run of Popes from Saint Pius X through Pope Benedict. To me neither Pope Francis nor Globalists seem to work in the interest of the Catholic Church. Liberation theology and Globalism both represent heresy as far as I am concerned.

May 17, 2023 Louis Reply
To Louis:

What is your source for the following: “The Nazis also ultimately killed about 3/5ths of the Catholic clergy of Europe”? This seems very improbable to me. It might be true of Poland, where the Nazis had the objective of exterminating the entire upper level of Polish society, definitely including the Catholic clergy. But other European countries with large numbers of Catholic clergy included Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Belgium, Holland, Austria, Hungary, Croatia and Germany itself. I doubt that the Nazis killed a single Catholic clergyman in Portugal or Spain and very few if any in the other countries listed, though Catholic clerics who were outspokenly anti-Nazi were imprisoned.

May 17, 2023 Kirt Higdon Reply
To Kirt:

That statistic was given in an interview on EWTN many years ago, but I am afraid I have forgotten the name of the priest who said it. He gave many statistics referring to both Catholic & Orthodox clergy in Europe. Perhaps it was in reference to Catholic clergy lost during that period in general all over Europe. I remember he also said the ultimate goal of the Nazis and Soviets was to “break the apostolic succession” in the Catholic & Orthodox Churches. Since hearing that it is always obvious for me to to see National Socialists & Communists both as ultimately being on the Left.

May 18, 2023 Louis Reply
I never accepted the cartoon Hitler; the mustached lunatic who hated Jews because they didn’t like his paintings.

Hitler rose to power like all “leaders” rise to power by right-timing and by the consent of those to be led.

Desperate people, so desirous of a leader of certain characteristics, will ordain that person successful, whether they are successful or not. Hitler invigorated German-ness like Reagan invigorated Americanism. Who would have imagined an artist or an actor as a leader?

America desperate to close its chapter on race, ordained Obama successful but rejected Hillary. In a subconscious thread, the public knew that feminism may have coat-tailed to popularity on the Black Civil Rights Movement but the public wasn’t going to allow it to gain power on the coat-tail of a Black President. It wasn’t the right-time. That’s why so many who voted for Trump also had voted for Obama.

On the elevation of bad leaders:

In my 33 year teaching career (1978-2012), I saw many administrators elevated to positions of power who were incompetent. They were incapable of making decisions, ignorant, poor speakers, and poor writers. They came out of the ranks of physical education and coaching. However, they were supported, or idolized, by faculty and staff who wanted them so desperately to succeed. These incompetent leaders would delegate to very willing subordinates (mostly women staffers) the tasks that they were incapable of doing like speaking to parents, making board presentations, scheduling classes for the new school year, writing their EdD theses, or directing large group in-service training. The staff wanted them to succeed because they were of a certain identity group. Had it not been for right-timing, that is, the advent of Identity Politics, these types of leaders would have remained as teachers in the classroom, in the gyms, in the shops, or as football and basketball coaches.

We don’t choose our leaders on merit. We choose our leaders by the identity that we want to lead us. Who would you rather have as principal of your high school? Paul Gottfried or Joe Paterno?

May 18, 2023 RICHARD T BECK Reply
I think this perspective best explains who Hitler was and what the Nazi Party was all about. He hated capitalism which is clear from his direct writings. He was at best lukewarm about individual freedom, and tended towards collectivist thoughts about the good of the volk and the evil of the Jews. He was a drug addict if the reports can be believed. So he was no traditionalist morally. He was mordern, socialistic, but also nationalistic. He did use the sexual immorality of the Communists to gain support and punished that immorality after he came to power. This is where he differed at least after 1919 with the Communists. Taking it all together Hitler still sounds like a man of the Left though not as far Left as the Bolsheviks.

https://thecrosssectionrmb.blogspot.com/2023/04/the-ethics-of-liberty-human-rights-as.html

May 18, 2023 RMB Reply
Louis, you note: “There has been an official invitation for some time for Anglicans/Episcopalians, Lutherans, and Methodists to come back to the Catholic Church.” I suppose they might return if the Pope apologized for his predecessors’ authorizing the killing of all of the heretics, their own predecessors–and if he officially denied possessing a sacerdotal monopoly (Tu es Petrus; Peter’s keys to bind and loose). If you think the Popes back in the 1200s, 1300s, 1400s, 1500s were RIGHT to kill John Huss and thousands of other heretics, then you might say so. Explicitly. Then you’d be a Catholic like they used to exist! (A non-decadent, non-modern, non-effete, non-American one.) What I can’t so gladly tolerate is the have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too cafeteria Catholics. At all events, here we demonstrate that your Christianity, even the Petrine one, is totally incompetent to unite Whites against all their BIPOC enemies. Blood of Ashli Babbitt is on all our hands–and pastors and priests are doing ZERO to redress the outrageous injustice. The Sanhedrin. Cuz more than half of all your pastors and pastors in America are BLM and BIPOC Supremacy, aka Diversity. Whatever Christianity is supposed to be, its adherents must choose between the Caesars to render; choose between the races to benefit. Stalin or Hitler…Biden or Trump; BIPOCS or Whites. Black Supremacists or White Ones. Most important of all: George Floyd or Ashli Babbitt? No justice, no peace. But the Pope isn’t calling for war–except on behalf of St. George.

May 18, 2023 Nick Reply
Physicians, Heal Thyselves:
If one wished to be glib about it, Nietzsche wrote the autopsy of the USA in his Genealogy of Morals. H.L. Mencken then provided handsome and copious footnotes. Sklavenmoral in favor of Aframericans. Next: Burnham’s discourses on suicidal “liberalism” were actually referring merely to a late stage of the Sklavenmoral. Thus, it is more accurate to speak of Christianity (an American form of Sklavenmoral) rather than Burnham’s “liberal syndrome” as the ultimate source of the Western suicide. (China has no such syndrome, whether you call it Christian or liberal.) All told, it is Christian morality (Sklavenmoral) that blesses most of the “woke” agenda–especially its BLACK and HOMOSEXUAL components. Thus, its redoubtable, seemingly irresistible, potency.
And thus, “White guilt” is a function of Christian morality. Without the latter, it would be inconceivable. Why would Whites need feel any shame about being more powerful, or about having exercised that superiority as all humans have always done—and still do and will do? It is not a White but a human thing (for individuals and groups) to seek and maintain power over others. Why would the White, why would ANY, race feel guilty about being dominant against rivals? Christianity. I say again. Christianity causes guilty conscience. Jews in the OT felt the opposite of guilty as they annihilated rival peoples. They were proud; they felt blessed by Yahweh. Their righteousness and divine favor was proven by their vanquishing and slaughtering of others. Now of course for the Whites in power, they are merely presiding over “White guilt”–that is, administering the incineration of the White Trash. Your Gavin Newsomes, Cuomos, Bushes, and Bidens are crucifying the Chauvins and Babbitts, while granting the liberation and empowerment of all the Barabbas Floyds and Michael Byrds.
…and surely even a half-wit will have noticed that “Christianity” in the USA long ago became merely a super-sanctimonious version of egalitarianism/socialism: war on the White-haves by the non-White-have-nots.

May 18, 2023 Nick Reply
…war on the straights by the sodomites and catamites.

May 18, 2023 Nick Reply
A better comparison would be between the thinkers of the German Conservative Revolution, some of whom rejected Nazis and others who were party members, compared to Hitler and Naziism. I think the German Conservative Revolutionaries were correct about most everything.
Capitalism and communism both have a fundamentally materialist telos. Mass democracy and parliamentryism once no longer sufficiently aristocratic, is trash. The restoration of sovereignty is essential.

May 18, 2023 Anonymous Frog Reply
Murray’s Speech at Conservative Conference…

He makes a good point about Germany. We see nationalism in the light of Germany’s two fuck ups. Instead, why can’t we see nationalism in the brighter light of Israeli nationalism?

The first step to deconstructing the West’s ideas of nationalism might be to gain a better understanding of its most hated leader, Hitler.

We must decouple Hitler and Germany from the public’s perception of nationalism.

May 19, 2023 RICHARD T BECK Reply
To Robert (1st comment in the thread).

Capital now backs LGBTQ+, BLM, etc. I don’t think Captital = Conservative. Particularly in the context of early 20th Century Europe where Conservative = Throne and Altar. Mustached Mussolini was not Throne and Altar.

May 19, 2023 Bruce Reply
The killing of heretics was reasonable in the same way that the state executing killers is reasonable. They have a chance to repent and the death sentence can concentrate the mind to this end. In the case of public heretics, executing them keeps them from condemning other souls to Hell as well. Potentially many souls.

Peter and his successors were given the keys, it’s a historic fact. We will never recant this as it would be telling a lie. The Anglicans and Methodists were very generously gifted a Personal Ordinariate by Benedict XV1 despite their historic rebellion, schism and heresy. My guess is Lutheranism won’t exist much longer.

I’m sorry that Ashli Babbit was killed. She was a cross dressing (the mirror image of male transvestites) feminist who had zero babies. I hope that her contrition at the time of her death was sincere and perfect.

May 19, 2023 Bruce Reply
I’m rereading the Catechism and both Communism and Fascism are explicitly condemned as incompatible with Catholicism.

To Louis, infallibility is of two kinds: the ordinary & universal Magisterium (one kind) and the Extraordinary Magisterium (the other). I believe you are referring to the latter. For a quick way to get a comprehensive summary of infallible teachings, look to the summary of the Catechism of the Council of Trent plus the recent dogmas (3rd and 4th Marian dogmas & Papal Infallibility). These teachings from the sacred deposit of the Apostolic Faith are not novelties of course – just made undeniable by the faithful. I think you’re right that most dogmas are the result of the former sense of infallibility but I don’t know if the former is limited to the 3rd and 4th Marian dogma. Kirt is a smart guy who’s been hanging around here for a long time and might know.

Thank you for your defense of the Church which I’ve profited from. May God Bless you and yours.

May 19, 2023 Bruce Reply
If Hussites=Nazis then not only did the Popes have the right to wage war as the Allies did later in WWII, but the Popes were also correct in trying to prevent Protestants from breaking away. Most Anglicans and Lutherans and Calvinists deteriorated so what was the point of leaving the Catholic Church in the first place? All the Christians should return and help Authentic Catholics kick the Leftists out of our church. Christians should be united. Anyone who is working to keep Christians divided is part of the problem not the solution. This also applies to bringing Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Orthodox including the Russians back to the Catholic Church as well. Globalists=Liberation Theology because both groups keep Christians divided.

May 19, 2023 Louis Reply
The Popes replaced Christ. They have never represented Him. And I do not refer merely to the notorious Borgia ones of the Renaissance. They have _all_ made a mockery of Him. They are the successors of the Sanhedrin. Salvation is only available outside the Church. Like Henry VIII–almost as debauched as some of the Popes–we will never more pay you “Peter pence.” No, not even a farthing. …ich kann nicht anders. Finally, Bruce: You are not half the man Ashli Babbitt was. So, it seems I am your personal enemy? Well, as a CHRISTIAN, don’t forget to love and pray for me; turn the other cheek after I have broken your jaw; don’t cast the first stone; let me steal your jacket AND coat; in short, “Do not resist an evil person.” (Matt. 5:39) Ah, but you see, on the contrary: the Popes KILLED their enemies: heretics and infidels. Greater love hath no man than that. Oops!! At all events, Christians just can’t resolve their contradictions. No matter, Petrine or Lutheran or Anglican or Calvinist. Gott is tot. But the men who claim to speak for Him are eternal and hydra-headed. The blood of Babbitt is on all our hands. “Die Stimme des Blutes schreit zu mir von der Erde.” – Martin Luther

May 19, 2023 Nick Reply
The Demoncrats, Bolsheviks, Black Supremacists, Anti-White Racists, Anti-Straights…they have nothing to fear from “Christians.” They only fear the type that prevailed against the Communists in Weimar…National Socialists. That’s why Trump scares them. Nothing preserves and augments their power more than the Right’s “Christianity.” (Biden and Pelosi have not been excommunicated by the Papa, have they? Ooops again.)

May 19, 2023 Nick Reply
To Nick:

You are confused. Trump is the only one who wants to stop wasting money on Neo-Nazi militias in Ukraine. How does that make him a National Socialist? All the Democrats and many Republicans in Washington, D.C. are backing Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. No one has said waging war is actually wise. That’s just one of many reasons why not all Pope’s have been declared Saints. All the recent Pope’s including Francis wanted all Christians back in the Catholic Church including the Russians. None of the Popes wanted to wage war against Russia. They only wanted to convert them back to Christianity. Trump has been speaking out against interventionism all along. John McCain pretended to be anti-Islamist and anti-Nazi and ended up being Chief Wetard when it came to arming Sunni terrorists in the Middle East and Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. If you want to defend Hussites then have the guts to go to Ukraine and be one.

May 19, 2023 Louis Reply
“Sainting” a Pope? Hmmm. Some are called, few are chosen? Some aren’t sainted: some aren’t “declared” saints. Hmmm. Jesus taught that one? Worship and prayers to His mommy too? He exclaimed in exasperation: “Who is my mother?” (Matt. 12:48) But I heard Catholics don’t actually read the Bible: that’s what the sacerdotalists are for! Ah, the list is too long (even more than 95 Theses exist), and gentlemen, the night draws near. I grow weary, and the cock is crowing by Peter’s betrayal. Suffice to recall Hobbes from Leviathan: “The papacy is not other than the ghost of the deceased Roman Empire, sitting crowned upon the grave thereof.” Sat sapienti. Louis: I suppose I am just as “confused” as Machiavelli, Hobbes, or Edward Gibbon–who also knew more about the history of YOUR church than you do.

May 19, 2023 Nick Reply
As I implied: the (Catholic?) Biden and (Catholic?) Pelosi hope all their enemies are _Christians_ and NOT Nazis or White Nationalists! -I- am what they fear. Jared Taylor and American Renaissance is what they fear. Ashli Babbitt is what they fear. They do NOT fear those enemy-loving (Christian?) fellows, Louis or Bruce. Unless they are Papist enough to kill heretics–but, oops, Biden, Pelosi, Xi Jinping, Muslims, and the Pope are not heretics! Only the Lutherans, Calvinists, and Hussites are! The latter are your enemies just as much as the Demoncrats! Christianity (Petrine or otherwise) is of ZERO unifying and galvanizing value against the anti-white racists, Bolsheviks, femiNazis, sodomites, infanticidalists, et al.

May 19, 2023 Nick Reply
Nick you’re a moron!

Yes there are Popes who have been canonized.

Yes Biden is the one sending all the bombs to the Neo-Nazi militias in Ukraine.

Yes as far as I’m concerned Biden and Pelosi are as Left-wing as Hitler was!!!

Yes the Nazis legalized abortion too!!!

May 19, 2023 Louis Reply
Ashli Babbit accomplished nothing but to die childless, murdered by a black man (who should be on death row – check that – he should already have been executed). Ashli Babbit had zero children – she wasn’t a successful man or woman – she didn’t even have the feminine virtue of a childless nun. How many (white) children do you have, Nick? I have 8.

Nietzschean Alt Right (do they call themselves that anymore) Trolls – almost all of them have ZERO children. No woman would allow herself to be impregnated by their seed. Genetic dead ends.

May 20, 2023 Bruce Reply
I think Nietzschean Richard Spencer managed to impregnate a Russian girl before she divorced him. So he has one kid maybe. Thomas Fleming had that guy figured out back when Spencer was Taki’s editor.

I remember when Jerry Salyer wrote “Where The Demons Dwell” at this website. Indeed.

May 20, 2023 Bruce Reply
Bruce, Jesus had ZERO children. The celibate SAINT Paul seems to have referred to YOU, the lecherous: If you cannot control your lust, then please get married! (1 Corinthians 7:9). FAMILY VALUES, as in “Who is my mother?” (Matt. 12:48) Anyone who cannot control his lust, and must engage in the ANIMALITY of copulations…well, it takes a mere beast to be PROUD of a litter, farrow, or to be more biblical, brood…of vipers. Jesus also referred to you this way, via the great Martin Luther’s translation: Schlangenbrut! I remind you: as good Christians, you will LOVE me, your nemesis. Hmmm…. calling me (and Ashli Babbitt) all those nasty things…well, that sounds like a real Christian…like a Pope of the Borgia vintage. Ecrasez l’infame. As for the French, I’m afraid you are as ignorant of Voltaire as you are of Hobbes–whose slaying of the Papacy in Leviathan seems to have eluded your detection.
But gentlemen, put all that aside; I only pose the one question again: Has the Pope excommunicated Biden and Pelosi? (If not, I consider Trump his superior in piety.)

May 20, 2023 Nick Reply
The TRUE morons have not even grasped the basic analysis of James Burnham and Sam Francis–yet think they can refute Jared Taylor too. But you’ll reasonably consider ME a nobody. Fine. Sam Francis, the great Chronicler author, colleague and friend of the great Paul Gottfried, covered most of the key points before he died:
https://www.amren.com/news/2019/08/managerial-revolution-elite-theory-immigration/

May 20, 2023 Nick Reply
I am not sure Bruce. My guess is that Nick is phony. He is probably paid by Neocons to try and bait the real rightists who support Donald Trump.

May 20, 2023 Louis Reply
In “Origins of Totalitarianism” Hannah Arendt is quite clear that both Hitler an Nazism were products of the Austrian branch of the 19th Century pan-german movement that arose in tandem with the pan-slav movement in the East. Arendt insists that both movements were purely central European and middle and lower class in their orientation and culture.

Richard Evans observed that the one faction Hitler always differed to were the Party Gauleiters. The actual structure of the Nazi Party has attracted little attention, it being easier to label Hitler a monster and the Germans monsters for having supported.

To my eye, the Maoist DNC seems to have studied the NSDAP because the US in 2023 looks much Germany in 1933 and a bit like China in 1963.

May 20, 2023 EK Reply
Louis, Poland has just denied entry to Jared Taylor to give a talk. (That’s the link below if you wish to inform yourself.) When the Pope is persona non grata there, and in China, I’ll know that he and you are not phony. Trump is still the best bet for now. Jared Taylor would be even better.
https://www.amren.com/videos/2023/05/poland-bans-me-again/

May 20, 2023 Nick Reply
Think of Mussolini, a socialist journalist who found a way to graft his own movement onto some of the more conservative or reactionary elements of Italian society. If you look at who his followers were fighting in the streets and who he was putting in prison, you might conclude he was a rightist, though the leftist elements in his program and the things he learned from left-wing revolutionary movements are clear.

Could Hitler have been similar? Maybe left and right, masses and elites have more common ground than ideologues would like to admit. The Russian Revolution threw a monkey wrench into political thinking. By the Thirties the most important thing for the ideologically engaged was how you felt about Lenin and Stalin. The heritage of Napoleon and Robespierre, once radically leftist, became the common property of totalitarian movements, “right” and “left,” and a Napoleon or Robespierre might have been characterized as a rightist.

I’m a little suspicious of Kuehnelt-Leddhin. First, leave it to an Austrian to make the Czechs responsible for Hitler. While there were similarities between the Czech National Socialists and later extremist movements, the Nazis had plenty in the German and Austrian heritage to draw on. Second, it’s a little too convenient to categorize the European right in American terms. While German rightists weren’t all Nazis, they were far from America’s more libertarian conservatives.

May 28, 2023 Roger Reply
In the 1940’s the “adults” were still in charge. Kennan and Lukacs could believe that a level-headed elite could rule and keep far left and far right at bay. It’s fair to say that Lukacs was more critical of the American right than the left. He saw it in European terms, through the lens of his experience in Hitler’s Europe. What he didn’t see is that in later years America was no longer as united and homogenous as it was in the Forties, and the elite was neither as adult as it once was, or as committed to the values and constrained by the power of the “silent majority.” It was hard for Lukacs to get around his experiences in Europe and the theories he formed then. The warm reception Lukacs received in midcentury WASP Philadelphia, may also have made it hard for him to see how much America had changed since then.

May 29, 2023 Roger Reply
Gentlemen All,
Although I enjoy reading “hard copy” of Chronicles, I eagerly await and search the online “Chronicles” for the very informative back-n-forth! I learn sooo much each and every time!
The “adults” may have been in charge in the 1940’s, but their teachers and handlers were grooming them waaaaay before that!
To coin a very worn cliche’ – the emperors have been running around buck-nekkid for a long, long time
Oh! That we had a John T Flynn living today. Never mind – “Chatbot” would argue with him.
Again – thanks so very much for such wonderful commentaries.

May 29, 2023 Rickee Reply
To: Richard Beck
Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn loved America more than most Americans. He often said, “The great problem in America is that the half-educated are in charge of the education and the news.” Once an aggrieved educator asked him to please identify these so-called half-educated. Erik replied, “Well if like better terms, they are highly specialized idiots commenting on matters outside their purview.
Thus, in education genuine scholars need not apply.

May 29, 2023 velcro Reply

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